Jared
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Post by Jared on Mar 29, 2016 8:33:57 GMT -6
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Post by Jared on Mar 29, 2016 8:35:28 GMT -6
I guess you have to type in the search inquiry. I just looked up VW and it was the first ad. I wish I had the cash at the moment, this is a great deal!!!!
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Post by dmar836 on Mar 29, 2016 13:51:53 GMT -6
Pretty good starting point for someone. Dave
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Post by Supervee on Mar 29, 2016 14:01:08 GMT -6
YES….I wonder if the wings ever flew on a V-Witt, they appear totally built, whereas the fuselage still needs tabs, and some controls….Absolutely can't beat that price…The four wing skins will cost A grand!!!…….
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Post by Jared on Mar 29, 2016 14:55:00 GMT -6
I know, I really hate I'm not in a position to buy it at the moment, otherwise it would be nice and cozy next to my S-II right now!
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Post by Jared on Mar 29, 2016 15:11:43 GMT -6
I am waiting on a call back from the gentleman who has it. I doubt it has flying wires, as it wasn't stated they were there. Would someone be able to get a set made these days, or is that something you would have to find from back then?
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Post by Supervee on Mar 29, 2016 16:02:13 GMT -6
Jared, Good Question, I think any length wire can be made, but it may take a long time to get them, and I imagine , about a grand for the four!! Maybe more… Steen Aerolab reps a british company, I believe, that makes them…..Let us know if the guy with the project calls you back…. I love cantilever wings for this reason…….Dave, You said you 'might' be building new wings for your V-Witt, it would be cheaper and quicker to buy this project, have good wings, and a spare fuselage….….Ed
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Post by Jared on Mar 29, 2016 16:50:21 GMT -6
That's kind of what I was thinking Ed. I knew flying wires can be one of the most expensive parts to a plane, especially if it has the name Curtis or Pitts on it. I was thinking about this project and the other one we talked about. I think the previous mentioned one would be better for me and this one would be better had by Dave like you stated. Although this might be faster, only cause it has the name Steve Wittman associated with it, I would rather restore an old racer... I'll let you know what I find out about this one.
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Post by dmar836 on Mar 29, 2016 20:13:15 GMT -6
I get to wondering about others projects though. Did he use 45 degree ply rather than 90?, etc. I've seen some really beautifully made ribs - but glued with CA! Some guys are obvious butchers but the scary ones have better workmanship than logic. Might merit some research. Looks like a broker. Let us know what he says. I'd sure like notes on how the wings were built. I like life! Dave
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Post by Supervee on Mar 30, 2016 10:17:30 GMT -6
V-Witts are not necessarily faster than Sonerais, engine for engine…Wittman's prototype was very fast, but the other V-Witts that raced, ( Mr. Smiley and Chasin' Rainbows,) were not always better on speed on the course. Mr. Smiley would do well on the straight aways, but the thinner wing would lose in the turns. The Sonerais that beat Wittman had better engines than Witt had. V-Witts are lighter than Sonerais by far, and have a less boxy fuselage, but the thinner wing, and the exposed wires, take it back a little. Its hard to beat the Sonerai's overall performance with the 64 series airfoil…. A couple years after Wittman got his flying, he added the long , tapered tips, and it went faster…..Adding area, and span, lowers span loading, and the big tips made up for the thin wing slowing in the turns, due to induced drag…. Smiley and Rainbows had the smaller tips, and Smiley, with a more powerful engine , was , in the end, probably a tad faster than Witt with ol' #1….. I think the short, stock tips 'look' better….. Dave, you might be able to see the plywood thru a small hole in the root rib, with flashlight and mirror….Sometimes you can see the grain orientation thru the fabric, if it is not loaded up with paint…..The wings in the ad appear that they may have flown, as there is a mark at the leading edge, at root, that looks like it might have been left from tape sealing the cowl cheek as it flows into the wing leading edge…..Ed
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Post by dmar836 on Mar 30, 2016 19:56:00 GMT -6
Jared, Did you ever get a call back? Dave P.S. Almost had the wife convinced to go look at it until we saw it was almost in Wisconsin.
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Post by Jared on Mar 31, 2016 19:15:05 GMT -6
No, I never heard back from him.
Where are you located Dave? It is about a 14 hour drive for me...
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Post by dmar836 on Mar 31, 2016 21:46:50 GMT -6
Kansas City. Not a short drive to meet a person who's not very keen to talk. As Ed implied, the wings might have been flown though the fuse obviously hasn't which adds to the story that a broker likely doesn't know and which doesn't help his asking price. Not much money but perhaps that's why he isn't so responsive. Dave
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Post by Supervee on Apr 1, 2016 5:50:04 GMT -6
"If ya wanna have a dance, ya gotta pay the band"…..If you want to sell something, you need to talk to prospective customers….
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Post by Supervee on Apr 1, 2016 7:19:45 GMT -6
Guys, I just sent him a message also, and asked some direct questions….We shall see if he responds…Every time a project like this, a V-Witt, Sonerai 1, or Renegade, comes up, I try to help get it purchased into our Supervee Air Sports group…We need airplanes before we can have a competition, and every good deal out there needs to be scooped up by a Supervee person!!!….If only 50% of those actually get finished into a racer, I feel that we have been successful as a whole!!….…Ed
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